veliseraptor:

One thing I’m suddenly thinking about is Black Widow’s reputation as a femme fatale and where it comes from. Because both in the MCU and in most of the comics I’ve read, there’s not a whole lot of her seducing men/using sex to get what she needs.

In comics, her very earliest appearance with Iron Man in Tales of Suspense #52 has her serve as a distraction in the form of a pretty face, but there’s scarcely anything there, and while there were some hints of it in Richard K. Morgan’s Black Widow run overall I find it’s much more typical that the men around Natasha assume she’s there to seduce them, when in fact she has other means of getting what she wants.

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(Of course, the above panel is having it both ways. Natasha’s reason for not sleeping with her mark here is that she’s “involved” - and the suggestion of sex is there, along with a close up on Natasha’s thigh.)

Outside of Ultimates (and I don’t talk about Ultimates) sleeping with people - or even trading on her sexuality that much - just doesn’t seem to be a thing Natasha really does. 

And then in the MCU - in The Avengers she trades much more on her perceived vulnerability and assumed weakness (as a woman) than any kind of sexual appeal (“just another pretty face” and the whole scene with Loki). In Cap 2 there’s even less - the closest thing I can come up with is the “hello, boys” in the scene on the Lemurian Star and that is immediately followed by a brutal fight rather than a seduction. Later on, with Sitwell, her interrogation style is to kick him off a building. 

What I’m getting to, I guess, is that it seems to me one of those things that kind of comes out of nowhere. It’s an assumption - like the man in the panels above, that because Natasha is a woman and a spy and wears a tight black suit, that her modus operandi is sex. And if it’s an assumption made in universe (by Natasha’s interrogators and opponents) then it’s one that, despite its being proven wrong, is perpetuated out of universe in discussion. (Think of the reviews of both Winter Soldier and The Avengers that dismissed Natasha as sexy eye candy in fetish gear.)

It’s just - funny, for lack of a better word, that no matter what canon evidence there is, Natasha is still overwhelmingly perceived as a femme fatale figure trading on her sexual appeal, when it’s been demonstrated in both comics and the MCU that that’s not what she does. It’s like the trope of spy woman = sex object is so deeply embedded that even with two movies and several volumes of comics to the contrary, perception still sticks Black Widow in that box, again and again.

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Turns out Agent Romanoff isn’t comfortable with everything (x).

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theopteryx:

natasha said ‘bye bye bikinis’ and i said ‘hello shameless reason to draw pin-up suits,’ and it was so

theopteryx:

natasha said ‘bye bye bikinis’ and i said ‘hello shameless reason to draw pin-up suits,’ and it was so

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ouyangdan:

roane72:

natasha romanoff + tumblr wanting a black widow movie.

Black Widow 3: Steve What the Fuck Is Your Friend Doing

okay i’d change a few deets but this is yes very yes.

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@mishastolethetardis - Imagine the Avengers going to the movies and Natasha tries to get Steve in as a senior

@mishastolethetardis - Imagine the Avengers going to the movies and Natasha tries to get Steve in as a senior

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fuckyeahblackwidow:


Maria: I can’t put SHIELD on this. Not officially.Natasha: This is a complicated web, Maria. We’re tangled in it.Maria: Then I suppose we’ll continue to need a spider who can navigate the threads. You’re the only person I can trust right now.

This scene sets up an interesting and kinda unremarked dichotomy. Chasing Chaos, Natasha has run into familiar faces from her life’s other sides— Frank Castle and especially Matt Murdock, who question whether they can trust Natasha or Natasha can trust herself. But she is chasing Chaos because Maria Hill asked her to. Because she’s the only person Maria can trust.
From Black Widow #6, by Nathan Edmondson and Phil Noto.

fuckyeahblackwidow:

Maria: I can’t put SHIELD on this. Not officially.
Natasha: This is a complicated web, Maria. We’re tangled in it.
Maria: Then I suppose we’ll continue to need a spider who can navigate the threads. You’re the only person I can trust right now.

This scene sets up an interesting and kinda unremarked dichotomy. Chasing Chaos, Natasha has run into familiar faces from her life’s other sides— Frank Castle and especially Matt Murdock, who question whether they can trust Natasha or Natasha can trust herself. But she is chasing Chaos because Maria Hill asked her to. Because she’s the only person Maria can trust.

From Black Widow #6, by Nathan Edmondson and Phil Noto.

fuckyeahblackwidow:

Natasha: I have spent over a month hunting you! I will follow you! I will find you! And if not me, then others! I found you here, do you not understand? If you do not surrender yourself, this can only end in death! Mine or yours, but one of us! Castle! I will not stop pursuing you— I will never stop—

In honor of this week’s Punisher/Black Widow crossover, I thought I’d post a scene from one of my favorite Natasha comics of the past few years, Punisher War Zone #2. Greg Rucka’s excellent run on Punisher was a meditation on the power of missions— the way a mission can transfigure, make someone more than human, and less. In this story Natasha spends a month tracking a nearly wordless Frank Castle to a remote jungle. But Frank loses her when he runs through a camp of child soldiers. She stops; she can’t abandon them until she knows they’re taken care of. Frank knows the score, knows the mission, is the mission in ways she cannot let herself be.

"Pick your battles."

From Punisher War Zone #2, by Greg Rucka and Carmine di Giandomencio.

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Anonymous said: Does Natasha have any female friends that she works or hangs out with?

fuckyeahblackwidow:

Natasha’s had several friendships stop and start— historically Marvel has had a problem keeping a female lead book going long enough to develop and sustain friendships beyond one issue or run.  And for whatever reason, comics tend to remember Natasha’s romantic entanglements with men more than her connections with other women. Her two-second, after the fact affair with Hercules is what Champions flashbacks always show, not the friendship she made with Darkstar, a fellow Soviet defector.

So, let’s see: the first Marvel Knights series had Natasha develop a deep friendship with Dagger that’s not been referenced since.  In the second volume she worked with Helen Kim, a non-costumed SHIELD agent who disappeared after that series was axed at issue #6.  Marjorie Liu planned on bringing Natasha in to be a mentor in X-23, but the book was cancelled before she could write that arc.  (Liu also pitched a series about Laura, Natasha, Elektra and Mystique that never got picked up.)

Natasha and Sharon Carter had a few team-ups that spun out of Brubaker’s Captain America run, including Captain America and the Secret Avengers by kellysue, but Sharon is dead now and no one outside of Steve’s book seems to have noticed.  Natasha was a complicated influence on Rikki Barnes in Nomad: Girl Without a World and the associated backups, but Rikki’s dead now too.

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Natasha: Why didn’t you call me yourself? I found out from cage.
Angela: I didn’t want to impose— you’ve already helped me—
Natasha: Hurting the Chaeyi? No imposition at all.
Angela: You’re right, Natasha— I didn’t think I’m sorry.
Natasha: Don’t let it happen again.

Natasha was a huge encouragement to Angela Del Toro when she was starting out her hero career in tamorapierce's White Tiger mini, but Angela’s fallen into comicbook limbo. A+X #2 showed Natasha making a connection with Rogue and implied the two now hang out regularly, but like everything else it’s never left that issue. (I guess Rogue’s been dead recently, too.) Natasha took Crystal of the Inhumans to a superhero theme night at a pizza buffet/all-male revue once during the nineties, but, okay, I can see why that’s never been revisited.

The central premise of the current Black Widow series is that Natasha doesn’t let herself take days off. She takes extracurricular missions, instead. And one of the major consequences in this story is the isolation that she creates for herself, and how that lonliness frays her. Natasha keeps parts of herself compartmentalized; she can be a difficult person to know. But she is also nosy and meddling and driven to help people who tug at her.

Natasha’s major SHIELD contact right now is Maria Hill, and they share a subtle, professional relationship that is one of the highlights of the current book for me.

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Natasha: And you think I can succeed where you failed?
Maria: I am not paid for uncertainty, agent. Do your thing.

In the wider MU, Natasha shares a developing friendship with Spider-Woman, Jessica Drew. This started in Avengers Assemble, has been nodded to once in the main Avengers title, and is now a key component of the ongoing Secret Avengers series.

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Jessica: Can we do this every month, until, like, the next major catastrophe happens and everyone has to go beat up some aliens somewhere again?
Natasha: We can do this even twice every month. Wars never last. It’s going to be back to business as usual. Then we get more massages.

I’m not totally thrilled with Jessica’s characterization in that book, but I am totally thrilled to see a friendship like this survive more than one author. Maybe we’ll see Natasha pop up in Jessica’s just-announced book, eventually.

Panels from White Tiger #6, Black Widow #5 and Secret Avengers #1.

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offtide:

a bunch of practice nat doodles

offtide:

a bunch of practice nat doodles

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fuckyeahblackwidow:

Captain America: The Winter Soldier, deleted scene.

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